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Re: Java/Netscape security holes: hole du jour and summary



I think the confusion maybe between the first and subsequent Atlas beta.
They DID leave it in the ``Security'' preferences in the FIRST Atlas beta
on HP-UX version (as they did your versions of Unix), but somewhere along
the way, the toggles to disable/enable Java and JavaScript somehow migrated
into the ``Network'' preferences under ``languages.''  For example, in my
first Atlas beta for HP-UX operating system, they hadn't moved
Java/JavaScript yet, NOW I understand your initial response.

Their redesign surprised me, when downloading the LATEST Atlas beta, and I
wondered what ELSE they changed.  Well here's WHAT ELSE:  When applying for
a credit card using a secure server at http://www.bofa.com, I was not
allowed into the area where it allowed me to complete my application (a
secured area).  It gave me the error that the socket was already in use!  I
have NEVER had that problem before when logging onto a secured server!
HERE IS HOW I FIXED THE PROBLEM:

  Under ``Network'' preferences, I had to toggle the switch 
  ``Allow Persistent Caching of Pages Retrieved Through SSL'' 
  under the ``Cache'' tab.  Isn't that rich.  :-)

So there we have it, things have changed in more ways than may be apparent
on the surface.  I'm sure this ``persistent caching'' thing is a security
enhancement, and would appreciate it if someone could explain why it was
added.  It was only by accident that I discovered that the ``socket in
use'' error would prevent me from entering SOME secured sites (but not all,
as I was able to fill out a secured application on another server before
enabling ``Persistent Caching'' under ``Network'' preferences, ``Cache''
section.) I'm puzzled as to why ``Persistent Caching'' is needed in some
secured-server instances but not in others.

Like John LoVerso, I *don't think* JavaScript belongs in ``languages''
either.  My question remains, were these toggles moved out of ``Security''
because Netscape no longer considers them a security issue.

Gene

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